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10-25-2005, 10:00 AM	#1
Giers Raider Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 40	I Am Making an End Game Holy Priest So ya I am making a Priest to lvl up for my guild. We have a big shortage there and I was looking for some insight as to the best build for a end-gane Priest. If you have any suggestions please let me know. At the moment I'm going 10 in Disp. and the rest in Holy. Should i put more into Disp. and get the Spirit buff or what? __________________

10-26-2005, 06:18 PM	#2
Mad_Cow_Disease Peon Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	From what it sounds like, you're in the process of making a healer-priest for end-game raiding. So I assume: You are not yet high level, and thus need a spec to level easily. You plan only on healing in raids, and not PvPing much. Okay, many people have said it, and I'll say it again. When leveling up from nothing, go shadow-spec. Yes, it's not the best healing, but it'll help you get quests done when you can't whore yourself out for an instance. While a holy-spec priest could solo, a shadow spec priest could solo easier. Yes, you would need to respec when you got to higher level, but it's not much of a hassle for the ease it makes. As for a final spec, I'll give you my suggestion. Right now, I'm 31 holy with the rest in discipline. Sounds like a good idea for a heal-bot priest, right? Well, throw holy nova out the window. It looks cool, but it's quite useless as far as I can tell. Instead of holy nova, I think I'd rather have that discipline ability (can't remember the name off the top of my head, sorry) that allows your next spell to be cast for free, with +25% crit chance. I've had many occasions where the shit hit the fan and I could go for one more heal. Free greater heal is always great. Also, a quick prayer buff without having to stop is nice too. This ability comes with a 3 minute cooldown, if I'm not mistaken, which is a fight or two sometimes. To get that ability, you also have to take five ranks of another ability (forgot the name, sorry!) that reduces the cost of your instant cast spells. If I'm not mistaken, this includes inner fire, power word: shield, power word: fortitude, renew, shadow word: pain, and prayer of fortitude. That's a lot of mana you can save. I know I use PW:S, POF, and SW:P a lot, so that makes it worthwhile. The next biggie for me was the focused casting ability, and the talent that leads up to it. The feeder talent is an ability that prevents you from losing casting time from damage, but is triggered by a critical hit on yourself. The actual focused casting ability is able to trigger at will, with a two minute cooldown. Combine these two abilities for the ability to cast a free heal, with a 25% chance to crit, without losing casting time to damage. That's a real ass saver. Of course, you're going to get the mandatory improved power word: shield and improved power word: fortitude. That's a given, right? Probably the resistance talent too. As for the holy tree... I chose to go with the improved renew (+15% from renew), the reduced casting time, the reduced mana cost, the reduced threat, the overall addition to heal, improved POH, and inner fire. I'm going to drop holy fire and POH, as I won't use them often in higher instances (POH is suicide more often than not). I'm considering taking inspiration. I'm curious about how effective it would be. It procs on heal crit, and adds +25% armor. Normally, I wouldn't consider it, but the normal chance for crit, as well as the +25% from that discipline ability, that means I might actually see it happen. I'd have to see what else I would give up for it. Anyhow, going all you can into holy won't make you the most amazing healer. Don't bother with holy fire, the holy nuke casting time talent, or holy nova. Not worth it, in my opinion, since you aren't planning on nuking. As for your gear, I'd say to go for mana-per-five, intelligence, and stamina. Substitute spirit for mana-per-five when it's unavailable, which it will be until some higher instances. From my calculations, mana-per-five can beat out the regen that spirit would give you for an average item. Yes, it could be less than a regular regen tick, but you do get the mana-per-five in-combat, which will save your ass in extended fights. Intelligence gives you more mana... Allowing you to cast more heals during a fight before you have to wait for mana to regen. I don't know why I need to tell you that, it's an obvious for any caster. Stamina gives you HP. It'll help in PvP, but it's just as useful to a healbot. It's inevitable that you will on occasion draw aggro. More hit-points means you'll survive their cloth-annihilation-attacks long enough for the tank to help you out. Or, long enough for fade to come back. I hope this helps you out a bit. I'm going to respec myself to something like that soon enough, because holy nova and holy fire are crap. It took me a while to realize that 31 holy isn't the best idea. Last edited by Mad_Cow_Disease : 10-26-2005 at 06:24 PM.

10-27-2005, 11:34 AM	#3
Giers Raider Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 40	Thx a whole lot for the advice. Only thing is I refuse to go Shadow . . . EVER ! If I wanted to deal dmg I would play my mage. I want to heal. thats why I rolled a Priest. I wasnt planning on putting talent into Holy Fire because I saw it as useless. And for me soloing I picked up Engineering and all the Explosives really help. I'm lvl 20 and pretty much all I have done so far is get in groups for VanCleef. Next Stockades. Then Scarlet Monastary. Jumping from instance to instance I believe I will get some good gear for free and level up. But I dont know mostly this Priest is to help my guild. I have a 55 pally and all I ever do is heal. So why not be a true healer ya know ? But thank you very much this will help me figure out my talent tree with my Priest. If you think of anything else please let me know. __________________

11-07-2005, 09:53 AM	#4
Greatness Grunt Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 23	DPS is important while leveling. You'll level much slower with a holy spec then with a shadow spec. I highly suggest doing 31 shadow and putting the rest into discipline. When you hit 60 then respec. If you have never respecced before, it'll cost just 1g, not much for a level 60 (although if you've specced alot, then it's gunna cost you a ton of money). Save holy for endgame, that is where it really shines. Shadow is much better for leveling.

11-10-2005, 07:24 PM	#5
Aladrathain Lesser Demon Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern Idaho Posts: 300	It is not like you will be a crappy healer with 31 points in shadow. In fact, most of the added healing talents don't come into play until end game. Oooooohhhh my Flash Heal has a faster cast time... so what? You will not see that being useful until you start doing end game instance runs where the mobs hit hard. Trust me, that DPS is crucial to levelling up and actually enjoying playing your priest until end game. I know from experience... I played a holy all the way to 45 and it was more painful than you could imagine. I respecced Shadow and solo-ing became a breeze.

11-15-2005, 12:19 PM	#6
siegristrm Peon Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1	Shadow all the way. My only char that I have played, is my 46 priest. I went shadow all the way until 46, just now when i respecced. As shadow, up to 46 you can heal fine and also, if you are quick and smart about how to play, the shadowform may help you a lot when you draw aggro. it reduces physical damage by 15%. Also, in earlier instances, you can help with DPS and healing using vampiric embrace. the second i got that skill, i never had to cast another holy spell until Uldaman. Also, being shadow specced helped on the pvp server I'm on (wildhammer) against all the ganking. with shadow spec, i can continue to kill my mob and be healed as well as cast vampiric embrace on the ganker and PoW: P and get double the healing on me. There is no point going holy until you start doing Mara i think. And even then, don't get holy nova... its pointless useless spell and might only help in a tight jam, and only for a second. As they said before... if you spec shadow from square one... you will only have to spend 1g to change it up later. Please, whatever you do, don't start up holy. Also, until about lvl 40, you can do more DPS than the other party members. I out DPS'd many mages. Another thing is that a priest will own a mage easy. But then again, I love PVP, so that sort of thing matters to me.

11-16-2005, 09:09 AM	#7
dbaji Peon Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1	wait new talents ^^

12-07-2005, 08:02 AM	#8
Pope Peon Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1	Disc / Holy. common build for raiding is Disc Unbreakable Will 5 Imp Fort 2 Imp Shield 3 Mental Agility 5 Mental Strength 5 Meditation 5 Inner focus 1 when healing dont use Inner focus as a free cast, use it as an extra 10 sec in full spirit regen. (that is if you know what the 5 second rule is) Holy Some combination of 5 points in Renew / Crit.. i have 5x Renew Spiritual Healing 5 Subtlety 5. (anyone who doesnt have this is just asking for a high repair bill) Imp Heal 5 only get imp heal if you use Greater Heal. if your a flasher it wont help. Imp Flash 2 reduce interruptions when hit with AE ie Vael Imp PoH 2 i dont group heal much, but reducing cost by 200 mana makes it worth getting Spirit of Redemption 1 If you dont want spirit of Redemption put that point anywhere you like.. but no 1 point will make much difference This is pure healing. Dont bother pvping like this, its not fun. I heal BWL/ MC 500+heal 300 spirit +100mana/5 8.5k mana. Max GH4 crit 6380 Holy priests cant solo a paper bag.. GL in tyrs hand. Hope your renew out heals the 300+hp chops. while you run like a girl. Last edited by Pope : 12-07-2005 at 08:07 AM.

12-14-2005, 02:04 AM	#9
Daden Peon Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: sweden, Skåne, Malmö Posts: 1	ye i use 26/25/0 aswell is the best talent specc for a healing priest.

12-20-2005, 12:51 PM	#10
Seki Peon Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6	I prefer 34/17/0. Divine Spirit is very helpful, and it's just great. You'll be loved by other guilds, as a great priest, because we can still heal for a lot, as we get the key points in the Holy talent tree. Added, to very decent healing, it is great for PvP. I can kill a lot of Shadow priests, as well as keeping myself alive. __________________ Life is a bitch. Deal with it.

12-20-2005, 05:25 PM

#11

lysistrata

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seki

I prefer 34/17/0. Divine Spirit is very helpful, and it's just great. You'll be loved by other guilds, as a great priest, because we can still heal for a lot, as we get the key points in the Holy talent tree. Added, to very decent healing, it is great for PvP. I can kill a lot of Shadow priests, as well as keeping myself alive.

yeah and you can buff 39 ppl in the raid :D I myself went for 26 / 25 a bit mana / 5 sec and a bit spi since having 3 parts transcendence is <3 for spi

01-02-2006, 11:13 PM	#12
fruitman223 Grunt Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 18	good post __________________ For World of Warcraft Cheats, Exploits, and Hacks

01-12-2006, 02:35 PM

#13

Jirow

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lysistrata

yeah and you can buff 39 ppl in the raid :D I myself went for 26 / 25 a bit mana / 5 sec and a bit spi since having 3 parts transcendence is <3 for spi

/agree

26/25 has been far more useful than any other spec for End-Game healing.... just kiss your PvP game goodnight.

Now if bliz would make it so I'm not slain by even small furry animals due to the lack of viable offense...

-Jirow-

01-28-2006, 09:16 AM	#14
guruthos Raider Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 34	I had 36 points in Shadow and the rest in Discipline until I was 60. I could still heal VERY well. Only when you are getting into MC and above with your Priest will you notice a "need" to respec. I am currently 31 Holy, 20 Discipline, but only until I finish my Benediction encounter :\ Holy Nova will help a little, but as soon as I get my staff, I am throwing it out :) Hell, I may even do it sooner... __________________

11-06-2006, 07:36 AM	#15
tekil88 Peon Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3	look a pvp warrior and warlock shortcut..~! it's a beatiful battle! http://wowreplay.vicp.net/video/index.htm